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well thx, but more questions
== about game saves ==
== about game saves ==
There is one product called "3ds Cyber Save Editor". Looked carefully through the list of what games it supports, i found some games (that taken its offical cartbarge release date as a reference) must have using firmwares higher than 2.0.0 (which imported a new method of save encryption) and even one just released less than a month ago (Titled as "たまごっちのドキドキ☆ドリームおみせっち"). (If you need proofs i can get the list and all their release dates uploaded to my skydrive). So what do you think of such a product? If that do handle other games outside its support list (that i mean i can backup my save of one game and let it decrypted and resigned to your 3ds) i highly doubt it holding something like a keyslot of 3ds, or it can dump your console key (hey not such less). Or even it has more. well i'm getting many hunters cheating their games.
There is one product called "3ds Cyber Save Editor". Looked carefully through the list of what games it supports, i found some games (that taken its offical cartbarge release date as a reference) must have using firmwares higher than 2.0.0 (which imported a new method of save encryption) and even one just released less than a month ago (in fact that is another title sorry). (If you need proofs i can get the list and all their release dates uploaded to my skydrive). So what do you think of such a product? If that do handle other games outside its support list (that i mean i can backup my save of one game and let it decrypted and resigned to your 3ds) i highly doubt it holding something like a keyslot of 3ds, or it can dump your console key (hey not such less). Or even it has more. well i'm getting many hunters cheating their games.
:It doesn't need the key from the 3ds because games and their saves are encrypted with general keys (which happens to be on the 3ds as well). I think their dongle has a lot of logic in it (if it is what is says it is) and is very much illegal... more on that subject I can't really comment until they provide some proof.. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:13, 6 June 2013 (CEST)
:It doesn't need the key from the 3ds because games and their saves are encrypted with general keys (which happens to be on the 3ds as well). I think their dongle has a lot of logic in it (if it is what is says it is) and is very much illegal... more on that subject I can't really comment until they provide some proof.. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:13, 6 June 2013 (CEST)
(BTW could you please tell me where to edit if i do want to add CHN translation of 3dsexplorer?)--[[User:Syphurith|Syphurith]] 16:10, 5 June 2013 (CEST)
(BTW could you please tell me where to edit if i do want to add CHN translation of 3dsexplorer?)--[[User:Syphurith|Syphurith]] 16:10, 5 June 2013 (CEST)
:Sorry 3dsexplorer is not localizable.. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:13, 6 June 2013 (CEST)
:Sorry 3dsexplorer is not localizable.. --[[User:Elisherer|Elisherer]] 18:13, 6 June 2013 (CEST)
::Thx for replying me. Eh i tried to communicate on irc one or two days ago. There Normmatt and others tried to analyse it, however got a result that all those encrypt/decrypt things happened on their server (which is drupal) and the save file uploaded to remote seems to be a full one (that no clues about the decryption of the saves). Very pity, but i decided not to use any type of illegal action there. Yellow said the company should already have lots of ncch or other things related to decrypt the saves, may be even decapped the SoC (at least how could they get those commands?). Any clues how (or know anyone have such ability) to analyse the DFUse File (that is used as the hardware's firmware, using DFUse Demo we can get it extracted but not knowing what to do next)? If that is analysed we would be able to get the command which that product sent to cart and get its cart id, or even more commands. (those are related to the inner of the save editor app)
::Well or else, is there any hardware device that can be used as a proxy sniffer (from this save editor to the cart)? If that could help, maybe i can let someone who has already got such a product to test out the commands. --[[User:Syphurith|Syphurith]] 07:01, 7 June 2013 (CEST)