Talk:Gamecards - Revision history

Turdsucker at 07:14, 6 March 2021

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	The protocol encryption is RC4 seeded by SNOW 2.0, not AES CTR. The main page is uneditable due to it thinking there is emails in the page. [[User:Turdsucker\|Turdsucker]] ([[User talk:Turdsucker\|talk]]) 01:45, 12 January 2021 (CET)		The protocol encryption is RC4 seeded by SNOW 2.0, not AES CTR. The main page is uneditable due to it thinking there is emails in the page. [[User:Turdsucker\|Turdsucker]] ([[User talk:Turdsucker\|talk]]) 01:45, 12 January 2021 (CET)

			https://i.imgur.com/1tYQgdK.png [[User:Turdsucker\|Turdsucker]] ([[User talk:Turdsucker\|talk]]) 08:14, 6 March 2021 (CET)

Turdsucker: /* Protocol encryption */

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Protocol encryption

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	== Protocol encryption ==		== Protocol encryption ==

	The protocol encryption is RC4 seeded by SNOW 2.0, not AES CTR. The main page is uneditable due to it thinking there is emails in the page.		The protocol encryption is RC4 seeded by SNOW 2.0, not AES CTR. The main page is uneditable due to it thinking there is emails in the page. [[User:Turdsucker\|Turdsucker]] ([[User talk:Turdsucker\|talk]]) 01:45, 12 January 2021 (CET)

Turdsucker: /* Protocol encryption */ new section

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Protocol encryption: new section

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	* About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12\|Jl12]]		* About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12\|Jl12]]

			== Protocol encryption ==

			The protocol encryption is RC4 seeded by SNOW 2.0, not AES CTR. The main page is uneditable due to it thinking there is emails in the page.

Jl12 at 18:23, 3 November 2011

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	::It would cause more harm than good at this point. Showing that progress is being made keeps the community active, but public understanding of the encryption of the gamecard protocol is not vital for the pursuit of homebrew. It would only advance the pursuit of piracy. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:47, 3 November 2011 (CET)		::It would cause more harm than good at this point. Showing that progress is being made keeps the community active, but public understanding of the encryption of the gamecard protocol is not vital for the pursuit of homebrew. It would only advance the pursuit of piracy. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:47, 3 November 2011 (CET)

	- Responsible disclosure.		* Responsible disclosure. Try not to devalue the 3DS. Nintendo succeeding is also in our best interest, longevity/software wise.
			* Don't bolt doors shut before you open them for yourselves. Remember N can patch or change or obfuscate anything posted here.

	~~- Don't bolt doors shut before~~ you ~~open them for yourselves~~.		* Despite what I said. lol. If you can disclose the method without any specific technical information that would be nice. Privately if necessary.

	~~- Try not to devalue the 3DS unnecessarily. Nintendo succeeding is also in our best interests, software/longevity wise.~~		* About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12\|Jl12]]

	~~- Despite what I just said (lol). If you can disclose the method without any specific technical information that would be nice. Privately if necessary.~~

	- About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12\|Jl12]]

Jl12 at 18:18, 3 November 2011

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	- Despite what I just said (lol). If you can disclose the method without any specific technical information that would be nice. Privately if necessary.		- Despite what I just said (lol). If you can disclose the method without any specific technical information that would be nice. Privately if necessary.

	- About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12:Jl12]]		- About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12\|Jl12]]

Jl12 at 18:17, 3 November 2011

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	::I see the two sides of the problem here Neimod and Lazymarek9614. This forum like many public homebrew forum,s are there to try to find a way to load Homebrew. Letting everyone know your progress on what you are doing lets people understand how the scene is performing and people who have the knowhow can possibly help. But the downside to this is if Nintendo gets the drift on what you trying to do, they have the advantage, they know how the 3DS better than anyone, so releasing data on some exploits and WIP could lead to Nintendo patching it before it is finalised. Thats the decision the homebrew devs have to make.		::I see the two sides of the problem here Neimod and Lazymarek9614. This forum like many public homebrew forum,s are there to try to find a way to load Homebrew. Letting everyone know your progress on what you are doing lets people understand how the scene is performing and people who have the knowhow can possibly help. But the downside to this is if Nintendo gets the drift on what you trying to do, they have the advantage, they know how the 3DS better than anyone, so releasing data on some exploits and WIP could lead to Nintendo patching it before it is finalised. Thats the decision the homebrew devs have to make.
	::It would cause more harm than good at this point. Showing that progress is being made keeps the community active, but public understanding of the encryption of the gamecard protocol is not vital for the pursuit of homebrew. It would only advance the pursuit of piracy. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:47, 3 November 2011 (CET)		::It would cause more harm than good at this point. Showing that progress is being made keeps the community active, but public understanding of the encryption of the gamecard protocol is not vital for the pursuit of homebrew. It would only advance the pursuit of piracy. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:47, 3 November 2011 (CET)

			- Responsible disclosure.

			- Don't bolt doors shut before you open them for yourselves.

			- Try not to devalue the 3DS unnecessarily. Nintendo succeeding is also in our best interests, software/longevity wise.

			- Despite what I just said (lol). If you can disclose the method without any specific technical information that would be nice. Privately if necessary.

			- About the discussion further up on this page, I was able to inject logic. With a laptop and hcs microcontroller. ( microcontroller -> usb -> CTR cartridge ). I can obviously only get as far as what I can do without encryption, as I don't know how to encrypt or decrypt for now. [[User:Jl12:Jl12]]

Neimod at 01:47, 3 November 2011

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	::I see the two sides of the problem here Neimod and Lazymarek9614. This forum like many public homebrew forum,s are there to try to find a way to load Homebrew. Letting everyone know your progress on what you are doing lets people understand how the scene is performing and people who have the knowhow can possibly help. But the downside to this is if Nintendo gets the drift on what you trying to do, they have the advantage, they know how the 3DS better than anyone, so releasing data on some exploits and WIP could lead to Nintendo patching it before it is finalised. Thats the decision the homebrew devs have to make.		::I see the two sides of the problem here Neimod and Lazymarek9614. This forum like many public homebrew forum,s are there to try to find a way to load Homebrew. Letting everyone know your progress on what you are doing lets people understand how the scene is performing and people who have the knowhow can possibly help. But the downside to this is if Nintendo gets the drift on what you trying to do, they have the advantage, they know how the 3DS better than anyone, so releasing data on some exploits and WIP could lead to Nintendo patching it before it is finalised. Thats the decision the homebrew devs have to make.
			::It would cause more harm than good at this point. Showing that progress is being made keeps the community active, but public understanding of the encryption of the gamecard protocol is not vital for the pursuit of homebrew. It would only advance the pursuit of piracy. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:47, 3 November 2011 (CET)

3dsguy at 00:06, 3 November 2011

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	: Sorry, it is a little too soon to reveal that. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:00, 2 November 2011 (CET)		: Sorry, it is a little too soon to reveal that. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:00, 2 November 2011 (CET)
	::I think the 3dbrew members are one team, why do you want to hide it?--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:23, 2 November 2011 (CET)		::I think the 3dbrew members are one team, why do you want to hide it?--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:23, 2 November 2011 (CET)

			::I see the two sides of the problem here Neimod and Lazymarek9614. This forum like many public homebrew forum,s are there to try to find a way to load Homebrew. Letting everyone know your progress on what you are doing lets people understand how the scene is performing and people who have the knowhow can possibly help. But the downside to this is if Nintendo gets the drift on what you trying to do, they have the advantage, they know how the 3DS better than anyone, so releasing data on some exploits and WIP could lead to Nintendo patching it before it is finalised. Thats the decision the homebrew devs have to make.

Lazymarek9614 at 20:23, 2 November 2011

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	http://pastebin.com/38QxNGqn - That's the cart that was returning an empty header. ( "rayman 3D" ). Seems to work, now.		http://pastebin.com/38QxNGqn - That's the cart that was returning an empty header. ( "rayman 3D" ). Seems to work, now.

	How did you actually decrypt the encrypted commands, Neimod?-[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:06, 1 November 2011 (CET)		How did you actually decrypt the encrypted commands, Neimod?--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:06, 1 November 2011 (CET)
	: Sorry, it is a little too soon to reveal that. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:00, 2 November 2011 (CET)		: Sorry, it is a little too soon to reveal that. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:00, 2 November 2011 (CET)
			::I think the 3dbrew members are one team, why do you want to hide it?--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:23, 2 November 2011 (CET)

Neimod at 01:00, 2 November 2011

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	How did you actually decrypt the encrypted commands, Neimod?-[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:06, 1 November 2011 (CET)		How did you actually decrypt the encrypted commands, Neimod?-[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 21:06, 1 November 2011 (CET)
			: Sorry, it is a little too soon to reveal that. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 02:00, 2 November 2011 (CET)