Talk:3DS Development Unit Software - Revision history

3dsguy: sorry, but my lack of knowledge of the 3DS from that time makes me cringe. I can see know that it was extreme wishful thinking

2012-07-02T13:08:58Z

sorry, but my lack of knowledge of the 3DS from that time makes me cringe. I can see know that it was *extreme* wishful thinking

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	--Matyapiro31 18:15, 18 October 2011 (CEST)		--Matyapiro31 18:15, 18 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Ah, OK! Is the flash chip actually encrypted with a console unique key? If not, this could be a plan!--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 18:42, 18 October 2011 (CEST)		:Ah, OK! Is the flash chip actually encrypted with a console unique key? If not, this could be a plan!--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 18:42, 18 October 2011 (CEST)
	::But once we can obtain a method to obtain the console unique key, we could have a flash dump from every region of the 3DS as well as a dev 3DS flash dump. And then we could make a custom flash which, which plays all 3DS game regions as well as dev games and has dev programs.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 10:13, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

	The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod~~\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)~~		Neimod, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit).--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		:This is the development "unit":
	::This is the development "unit":		:[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]
	::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]		:The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

	Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".		Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".

3dsguy: shouldn't be on this page

2012-07-02T12:10:33Z

shouldn't be on this page

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	Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".		Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".
	I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)


	Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)
	:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)

	Can you guess which font is used for the test unit?		Can you guess which font is used for the test unit?

Matyapiro31: Some Links

2011-11-20T05:54:24Z

Some Links

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	:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)		:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)

	Can you guess which font is used for the test unit?		Can you guess which font is used for the test unit?

			Do you like to find the ID of[https://ntsc.nintendo.co.jp/ Nintendo_Technical_Support]?
			*Refer from[http://www.kmckk.co.jp/ctr/ PARTNER-CTR].--Matyapiro31 07:54, 20 November 2011 (CET)

Matyapiro31 at 06:25, 20 November 2011

2011-11-20T05:25:45Z

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	Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)		Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)
	:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)		:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)

			Can you guess which font is used for the test unit?

3dsguy: adding my signiture oops

2011-11-01T11:11:50Z

adding my signiture oops

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	Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)		Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)
	:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.		:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 13:11, 1 November 2011 (CET)

3dsguy at 12:10, 1 November 2011

2011-11-01T11:10:47Z

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	Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)		Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)
			:I have already got an email to test 3 apps, just so you know. One DSi app and two 3DS apps. Keep them coming, I want to put my special 3ds to use. I'll probably make a page for this if I get enough apps to test. BTW I will not post any details or host any apps you send to me without your permission, it is your work after all. Except for the number of apps I test, so people know that I'm contributing to the scene.

3dsguy at 11:52, 1 November 2011

2011-11-01T10:52:53Z

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	Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".		Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".
	I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)


			Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)

Lazymarek9614 at 18:52, 19 October 2011

2011-10-19T16:52:02Z

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	::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]		::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]
	::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

			Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".
			I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

Neimod at 16:24, 19 October 2011

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	The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
			::This is the development "unit":
			::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]
			::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

3dsguy at 15:23, 19 October 2011

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	The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

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	--Matyapiro31 18:15, 18 October 2011 (CEST)		--Matyapiro31 18:15, 18 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Ah, OK! Is the flash chip actually encrypted with a console unique key? If not, this could be a plan!--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 18:42, 18 October 2011 (CEST)		:Ah, OK! Is the flash chip actually encrypted with a console unique key? If not, this could be a plan!--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 18:42, 18 October 2011 (CEST)
	::But once we can obtain a method to obtain the console unique key, we could have a flash dump from every region of the 3DS as well as a dev 3DS flash dump. And then we could make a custom flash which, which plays all 3DS game regions as well as dev games and has dev programs.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 10:13, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

	The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod~~\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)~~		Neimod, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit).--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		:This is the development "unit":
	::This is the development "unit":		:[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]
	::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]		:The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

	Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".		Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".

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	Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".		Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".
	I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)


			Just putting this out there, as I have a 3DS Test Unit, which is capable of installing 3DS/DSi applications compiled in the .cia format from an SD card. So while a way to install applications you create yourself, for normal 3DSs is yet not possible (i.e. homebrew for 3DS is not yet possible), I am willing to test them for you. If you do make any applications you want me to test, compile them in the .cia format and send them in an email with a description of what the application is suppose to do and any instructions. And if you want I can send screenshots and feedback (as detailed as I can) I make about the applications, you or others may send. You can send them to "devguy@hotmail.com.au". --[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 12:52, 1 November 2011 (CET)

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	::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

			Thanks for clearing this up, [[User:Neimod\|Neimod]], from now on we will call [[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]]'s special 3DS "test unit".
			I think we should focus a bit on getting the system unique key(s) now. I propose that we do a RAM dump, because it's possible that the 3DS (when starting up) pushes the key to RAM. Also we can get some information about the 3DS memory map. However, we don't know the pinout of the RAM, that's the problem...--[[User:Lazymarek9614\|Lazymarek9614]] 20:52, 19 October 2011 (CEST)

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	The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		The NAND image of a development 3DS as called here (it is actually a test unit, not development unit) cannot be flashed to a retail 3DS, as there are most likely hardcoded fuses identifying if debug unit, test unit, or retail unit. Not to mention that the NAND image will contain encrypted files coupled with the console ID of the development 3DS, and any other console will have a different ID. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 13:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
	:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)		:Okay, I'm now a bit confused why would Nintendo label the "development 3DS" which is in my possession that is actually a "Test Unit" with a sticker saying "Development Unit". Is Nintendo purposely trying to confuse everyone, or am I missing something? Also if you can, can you tell me the differences between a Test unit and a Development unit?(considering i don't actually have a development unit). And about the custom flash, I was only speculating about what we could do if we found a method to extract the unique console ID/key and i purposely left out the steps of decrypting and re-encrypting 3DS flashes as I was speculating. And you're probably right about there being a hardware flag distinguishing between Test, Dev and Retail units, no doubt for added un-hackability.--[[User:3dsguy\|3dsguy]] 17:23, 19 October 2011 (CEST)
			::This is the development "unit":
			::[[Image:CTRDebugger.jpg\|600px]]
			::The unit you possess is given to testers. --[[User:Neimod\|Neimod]] 18:24, 19 October 2011 (CEST)